Mythos IOM - der Film auf NDR

  • HEUTE (Mo, 29.8.), 18:15 Uhr: Eine volle halbe Stunde Fischereihafen Rennen 2016 im NDR Fernsehen! Wiederholung: Freitag, 02. September, 13 bis 13:30 Uhr. Nicht verpassen und: weitersagen!

  • Wer's noch nicht wissen sollte - Horst Saiger nach sau gutem 6ten Platz auf der Classic-TT wegen Technischer Unregelmaessigkeiten (Kolben) aus der Wertung genommen. Schade.
    Hier sein Kommentar auf fb:

    My Statement

    It's not funny to be disqualified and there are a lot of rumors, so I feel I need to say how I see the whole thing...

    For me the Classic TT is a festival and show, the regulations say everything:

    <The organisers retain the ability to accept an entry for a machine that is not compliant with these regulations if in their view it will enhance the spectacle of the racing >

    There's no price money and no championship. 750s against 1300s, handmade high tech bikes against old standard bikes out of a shed, big teams with professional riders against absolute amateurs.

    To be honest I didn't take the whole thing too serious. I was just happy to have a good bike with a good team behind it, so I can ride safely around the mountain course.

    No, I didn't know that my bike was out of regulations... but I didn't ask and that's only because I didn't really want to know! After the parc ferme my team boss Angus Greenall came to me and told me: Sorry Horst, you're out. Your pistons are 0,5mm too big. It was only a money thing as the 72,5 mm pistons would have been special parts and 3000£ whilst the 73mm are standard at 40£ each.

    For sure it was not right and he could have used smaller pistons, but I think he didn't take it too serious as well. He and the whole team are just putting a lot of hard earned money and hundreds of hours in these bikes to give me the best possible bike to be part of this spectacle. I'm not angry with him and I think I would have ridden the bike also when I knew it was out of regulations by 0,5mm – because nobody that I know in the paddock would think that half a millimeter makes any difference at the result! I feel very safe and comfortable on the bike when I know the Greenalls are behind it and that is the main thing for me.

    The whole paddock now learned that the Classic TT is not longer a show event, from now on it's proper racing – even the difference in bikes and riders is enormous.

    I will stay with the team if they keep on doing the Classic TT and I would be happy to have them behind me with my own racing at the roads as NW200, TT and everywhere else.

    Sorry for my englisch....

    PS: what does these words in the rules mean?:
    * The onus of ensuring the eligibility of any machine rests solely with the competitor."

    Gruesse aus SIAM.

  • HS-ja, das habe ich auch gelesen. Wenn die Kawasakis tatsächlich 830 ccm haben, sind allerdings nicht, wie Horst Saiger schreibt, Kolben mit nur 0,5 mm Übergröße eingebaut. Dennoch: Die Suzuki von M. Dunlop ist eine XR 69 Replica, hat also von Haus aus 1000 ccm, Basis ist der luftgekühlte 2-Ventiler aus der GS 1000. Oft werden jedoch in diesen 'Replicas' Motoren der GSXR/Bandit Reihe mit dem ölgekühlten 4-Ventiler eingebaut

    Nun ja, das hätten die Kommissare wahrscheinlich gemerkt...

    Dennoch schade, dass es bei so einem 'Spaßrennen' diesen Ärger gibt.



    As we saw it...
    After last years Classic TT, Greenall Racing agreed that we couldn't compete against the big Suzuki's and Yamaha's with our 750's and made the decision to run with the o/size pistons. We presumed that the other top teams wanting to be competitive had also gone down this route. As a team, we have always been led to believe that the Classic TT was about 'putting on a show' so that was our intention along with trying to win the race, or at least to be competitive. Naïve (though it may seem now) we never saw it as cheating as it was at the organisers discretion and there is no prize money involved.
    Being excluded from the results wasn't what we were expecting as in previous years, nobody had been stripped and we knew we had put together two of the finest and safest machines in the paddock, but in hindsight, seems pretty obvious that this year, the Manx Motorcycle Club / Scrutineers don't want the Classic TT and seem to have made a point of this. I'm sure our riders enjoyed their days racing on well prepared machinery around the mountain circuit. What really disappoints us is the way in which we have been treated post-race. Greenall Racing has no big money backers, just working lads taking holidays from work to enjoy their hobby, we can only fund one big meeting a year and chose to be part of the 'Festival of Motorcycling'. In the 38yrs Greenall Racing has been involved in the IOM, we have never been treated with such arrogance and disdain by the Chief Scrutineer.
    Following the race, we were asked to strip our engine along with the 1st and 2nd place machines; no problem. They could just have asked the bore and stroke and saved us a few hours.. The bikes that finished 4th, 5th and 6th were also placed at the front of the scrutineering bay to have their tank sizes checked along with those in the top three. All tanks were checked and fuel samples taken apart from Dunlop's machine; the mechanics took off the tank but was soon replaced unchecked. The scrutineers then informed us that they needed to check the bore and stroke of both our machine and that of the 2nd machine. When we asked if Dunlop's was also being checked, they told us that it had been checked in practice week and the engine had been sealed. We asked if we could see the seal and was told that it had already been removed. At no point whilst the bike was in the scrutineering bay had any scrutineer attended and removed the seal. We asked if we could see the seal to which we were informed that they 'didn't have it anymore; it had been taken off earlier, thrown away and was long gone'. The machine had only been in the scrutineering bay for 10mins and the fairing remained intact. We asked the Chief Scrutineer if he could show us the location on the machine where the seal had been placed; his anger was apparent and said that if we 'didn't change our attitude, we would be thrown out of the meeting'. We have also been informed by several sources that Dunlop's machine was being worked on the previous evening and the engine was seen to be in bits. We challenged the mechanic who promptly disappeared and wasn't seen again. In terms of 'sealing engines', a newcomer asked if he could have his engine sealed if he was successful in the newcomer race as he would be racing again in the Junior Race, only to be told that they didn't have the facility to seal engines...
    10mins or so later, the Chief Scrutineer came and questioned the engine size of other bike and we said 'same as this one'. He complimented our honesty (never in doubt) and left.
    To correct the Bike Sport News:
    the report states that the first 3 machines were checked; this is untrue as Dunlop's bike remained intact throughout the charade. The report goes on to say that the next finisher (following the exclusions) was stripped; this is also untrue. This was Rutter's machine which again remained intact throughout the whole charade but was simply moved into 2nd place.
    Mistral Racing were also asked to strip the 5th place machine but the team boss refused as Dunlop and Rutter's machine had remained intact and was duly informed that he had been removed from the results.
    After waiting a couple of hours, we eventually found out that we had been disqualified. Certain parties have since been trying to blight our name and felt that we needed to issue a statement of what really happened. We are sure the spectators in the grandstand and around the course don't really care about the cc's, they want to see top riders on top machinery which was our ultimate aim.
    We can confirm our disqualification was for both engines being 0.5mm oversize as running a 750cc Kawasaki is not competitive against the so called legal 'XR69 Bandit Engined machine' and the so called legal 'XJR1300 Yamaha'.
    For the last 3yrs, bikes have not been checked as this is a 'Festival of Motorcycling' and it was in the spirit of the meeting to have competitive machinery to ensure that it was not a 'one man show'.


  • Die ganze Nummer ist wirklich vollkommener Schwachsinn! Wenn man anfängt Repliken und Originale zu vermischen macht es wirklich keinen Sinn solche Maßstäbe anzulegen! Ganz einfache Lösung, kommt am übernächsten Wochenende nach Hockenheim, da könnt ihr die wohl einzige verbliebene echte Suzuki XR69S fahren sehen und hören, mit GS1000 Yoshimura Zweiventilmotor und nur 1000 ccm! Garantiert auch nicht langsam...... ;)